streaming https://www.ottenbourg.com/blog/ nl Stievie en Bhaalu getest voor expats https://www.ottenbourg.com/blog/2014/01/stievie-en-bhaalu-getest-voor-expats.html <!-- THEME DEBUG --> <!-- THEME HOOK: 'ds_entity_view' --> <!-- BEGIN OUTPUT from 'modules/contrib/ds/templates/ds-entity-view.html.twig' --> <!-- THEME DEBUG --> <!-- THEME HOOK: 'layout__onecol' --> <!-- FILE NAME SUGGESTIONS: x layout--onecol.html.twig * layout-onecol--node--1298.html.twig * layout-onecol--node-story-fulltext.html.twig * layout-onecol--node-story.html.twig * layout-onecol--node-fulltext.html.twig * layout-onecol--node.html.twig x layout--onecol.html.twig * layout.html.twig --> <!-- BEGIN OUTPUT from 'core/modules/layout_discovery/layouts/onecol/layout--onecol.html.twig' --> <div data-history-node-id="1298" class="layout layout--onecol"> <div class="layout__region layout__region--content"> <!-- THEME DEBUG --> <!-- THEME HOOK: 'field' --> <!-- FILE NAME SUGGESTIONS: * field--default--node--node-post-date--story.html.twig * field--default--node--story.html.twig * field--default--node--node-post-date.html.twig * field--default--node-post-date--story.html.twig * field--default--story.html.twig * field--default--node-post-date.html.twig * field--default.html.twig * field--theme-ds-field-default.html.twig * field--node--node-post-date--story.html.twig * field--node--node-post-date.html.twig * field--node--story.html.twig * field--node-post-date.html.twig * field--ds.html.twig x field.html.twig --> <!-- BEGIN OUTPUT from 'themes/contrib/bootstrap/templates/field/field.html.twig' --> <div class="field field--name-node-post-date field--type-ds field--label-hidden field--item">7/01/2014</div> <!-- END OUTPUT from 'themes/contrib/bootstrap/templates/field/field.html.twig' --> <!-- THEME DEBUG --> <!-- THEME HOOK: 'field' --> <!-- FILE NAME SUGGESTIONS: * field--default--node--body--story.html.twig * field--default--node--story.html.twig * field--default--node--body.html.twig * field--default--body--story.html.twig * field--default--story.html.twig * field--default--body.html.twig * field--default.html.twig * field--theme-ds-field-default.html.twig * field--node--body--story.html.twig * field--node--body.html.twig * field--node--story.html.twig * field--body.html.twig * field--text-with-summary.html.twig x field.html.twig --> <!-- BEGIN OUTPUT from 'themes/contrib/bootstrap/templates/field/field.html.twig' --> <div class="field field--name-body field--type-text-with-summary field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Al meerdere jaren <strong>experimenteer</strong> ik met mogelijkheden om <strong>Belgische/Vlaamse TV te kunnen kijken in het buitenland</strong> : <a href="//www.ottenbourg.com/blog/2008/01/live-streaming-van-vlaamse-radio-tv.html">iWatch</a> (2008), <a href="//www.ottenbourg.com/blog/2010/11/streaming-van-vlaamse-tv-de-slingbox-pro.html">Slingbox</a> (2010), <a href="//www.ottenbourg.com/blog/2013/02/vlaamse-tv-kijken-vanuit-het-buitenland.html" target="_blank">WeepeeTV</a> (2012),.. </p> <p>Allemaal mooie initiatieven (destijds), maar enkel de Slingbox werd regelmatig gebruikt. Niet ideaal, maar er was <strong>geen degelijk alternatief</strong>. <a href="http://expattvvlaanderen.blogspot.ae/#L2" target="_blank">Sinds enkele maanden</a> zijn er echter <a href="http://www.stievie.be" target="_blank">Stievie</a> en <a href="http://benl.bhaalu.com/" target="_blank">Bhaalu</a> voor <strong>gebruik in het buitenland</strong>.</p> <p>Via <a href="http://klanten.stievie.be/veelgesteldevragen" target="_blank">Stievie</a>, een initiatief van de drie grote Vlaamse omroepen (VRT, SBS en VMMa), kan je enkel streaming bekijken op tablets en smartphones (uitbreidbaar naar TV via <a href="https://support.apple.com/kb/ht5209" target="_blank">Apple TV met Airplay Mirroring</a>). Bij <a href="https://benl.bhaalu.com/help/faq" target="_blank">Bhaalu</a> is er daarnaast ook nog mogelijkheid om via een stick of een 'box' rechtstreeks op de televisie aan te sluiten.</p> <p>Bijna "live", alsook <strong>uitgesteld kijken</strong>, zijn natuurlijk <strong>ideaal voor expats in het buitenland</strong>. Zekers als je met meerder uren tijdsverschil zit.</p> <p>Even <strong>alle details en verschillen</strong> op een rijtje :</p> <table border="1" cellpadding="1" cellspacing="1"><tbody><tr><td> </td> <td><a href="http://www.stievie.be" target="_blank"><img alt="Stievie logo" height="70" src="//www.ottenbourg.com/blog/uploaded_images/stievie-logo.gif" width="200" /></a></td> <td><a href="https://benl.bhaalu.com" target="_blank"><img alt="Bhaalu logo" height="70" src="//www.ottenbourg.com/blog/uploaded_images/bhaalu-logo.gif" width="200" /></a></td> </tr><tr><td><strong>Aantal zenders</strong></td> <td>11 Vlaamse zenders</td> <td>Min. 15 zenders<br /> (nl. idem als uw huidig TV abonnement)</td> </tr><tr><td><strong>Live kijken</strong></td> <td>Enkele seconden vertraging</td> <td> <p>Na de live uitzending, met enkele<br /> minuten vertraging</p> </td> </tr><tr><td><strong>Uitgesteld kijken</strong></td> <td>Vandaag + 6 dagen</td> <td>- Tot min. 7 dagen via mobiel of stick<br /> - Tot min. 30 dagen (max. 90!) met een box</td> </tr><tr><td><strong>TV Gids</strong></td> <td>Ja</td> <td> </td> </tr><tr><td><strong>Toestel</strong></td> <td> <p>- Tablet/Smartphone<br /> (via Apple TV/Airplay ook op TV)</p> </td> <td> <p>- Tablet/Smartphone (mobiel)<br /> (via Apple TV/Airplay ook op TV)<br /> - TV (via stick of box)</p> </td> </tr><tr><td><strong>Aantal toestellen</strong></td> <td>Max. 4 verschillende maar niet gelijktijdig</td> <td>Max. 1 TV (via Box of Stick) en 1 mobiel apparaat gelijktijdig per abonnement</td> </tr><tr><td><strong>Software/App</strong></td> <td>- App voor iOS 5+<br /> - App voor Android 4.1+</td> <td>- Via browser p PC, iPad2+, Android 4.0+<br /> - Windows-app voor op PC</td> </tr><tr><td><strong>TV abonnement</strong></td> <td>NVT</td> <td>Belgisch TV abonnement nodig</td> </tr><tr><td><strong>Download snelheid</strong></td> <td> <p>(Geen details beschikbaar)<br /> De beeldkwaliteit past zich echter automatisch aan</p> </td> <td> <p>- Min. 1Mbps voor mobiel<br /> - Min. 3Mbps via stick of box</p> </td> </tr><tr><td><strong>Social Media</strong></td> <td>Interactie via de App (Twitter &amp; Facebook)</td> <td>Beperkt (aanraden content via gele knop)</td> </tr><tr><td><strong>Prijs (incl. BTW)</strong></td> <td>9,99EUR/maand</td> <td>5,00EUR/maand</td> </tr><tr><td><strong>Opstartkost</strong></td> <td>NVT</td> <td> <p>- 49EUR voor Tablet/Smartphone<br /> - 125EUR voor de stick<br /> - 365EUR voor de box</p> </td> </tr><tr><td><strong>Betalingsmethodes</strong></td> <td>- Belgische kredietkaart (online)<br /> - Via bon bij Media Markt (offline)</td> <td> <p>- Krediet- en betaalkaart (online)<br /> - Paypal</p> </td> </tr><tr><td><strong>Gratis uittesten</strong></td> <td>2 weken</td> <td> <p><strike>8u effectief kijken gespreid over meerdere dagen</strike><br /> 14 dagen</p> </td> </tr></tbody></table><p>De voorbije weken heb ik beide 'producten' uitgebreid kunnen testen, zowel in België, als in Dubai, alsook vanuit een hotelkamer in India en Kenya. Telkens via smartphone/tablet en laptop/PC, als op TV via AppleTV met <a href="https://support.apple.com/kb/ht5209" target="_blank">Airplay Mirroring</a>.</p> <p>Naar <strong>interface, gebruikersgemak van de app en TV gids</strong>, heb ik een boontje voor Stievie. De <strong>beeldkwaliteit</strong> van de streaming leek mij ook iets <strong>beter en scherper</strong> te zijn dan Bhaalu. Vooral op groter scherm (TV) was dit duidelijk.</p> <p>Helaas is het <strong>aanbod van zenders</strong> veel te klein bij Stievie en vind ik de prijs van 10EUR/maand veel te hoog. De bijkomende <strong>restricties op uitzendrechten</strong> van buitenlandse programma's en series maakt het moeilijk, zoniet onmogelijk, om net die afleveringen uitgesteld te gaan herbekijken.</p> <p>En dat is net waar Bhaalu wel handig om de hoek komt. Bhaalu is eigenlijk niet meer dan een <a href="https://benl.bhaalu.com/help/faq#question_cvr" target="_blank">digitale videorecorder in de cloud</a>, een zogenaamde Collaboratieve Video Recorder (CVR). Omdat je een <strong>Belgisch TV abonnement </strong>moet hebben, heb je namelijk het <a href="https://benl.bhaalu.com/help/faq#question_legaal" target="_blank">recht</a> om <strong>alles op te nemen</strong> en (privé) elders te gaan (her)bekijken.</p> <p>Dat elk programma en elke aflevering eerst moet opgenomen worden en daarna pas met wat met vertraging (via het internet) kan afgespeeld worden, is, vind ik, niet echt een groot probleem. En de prijs is de helft van Stievie, voor meer zenders...</p> <p>Het enige struikelblok (voor expats althans) is dus het <a href="https://benl.bhaalu.com/help/faq#question_tvabonnement" target="_blank">Belgische TV abonnement</a>. Maar zelfs dat is te 'omzeilen' door het abonnement (digitaal of analoog) te gebruiken van (schoon)ouders, familie, vrienden!</p> <p>De Bhaalu-box (365EUR, of 1EUR/dag) is wat duur. Zo'n fervente TV kijkers zijn we nu ook weer niet.</p> <p><u>Conclusie</u> : Na de proefperiode gaan we een <strong>abonnement van 6 maanden </strong>(voor 25EUR) nemen op Bhaalu (mobiel)!</p> <p>Nog even vermelden dat ook nog <a href="https://www.yeloplay.be/" target="_blank">YeloTV</a> bestaat. <strong>Niet beschikbaar in het buitenland</strong> echter (want je moet verbonden zijn met een Telenet internet aansluiting), maar wel een mooi initiatief om in Vlaanderen bv. <strong>via een Telenet hotspot</strong> (live) TV te kijken.</p> <p>Voor de Franstaligen en Franstalige buitenlandse zenders is misschien <a href="http://neo-net.fr/forum/viewtopic.php?f=39&amp;t=5563" target="_blank">ZedTV</a> een alternatief.</p> <p><strong>UPDATE (november 2014) </strong>: Intussen is Bhaalu <a href="https://benl.bhaalu.com/help/faq#question_down" target="_blank">tijdelijk niet meer beschikbaar</a> wegens een <a href="https://www.bloovi.be/nieuws/detail/het-volledige-verhaal-achter-de-bhaalu-rechtszaak" target="_blank">rechtzaak</a>.</p> <p>EXTRA TIP : <a href="http://blog.stef.be/stieviewer" target="_blank">Stievie kijken op je PC en op XBMC/Kodi</a></p> <p>UPDATE (augustus 2015) : <a href="http://nieuws.vtm.be/cultuur-media/154997-medialaan-lanceert-gratis-stievie-free" target="_blank">Medialaan lanceert dit najaar "Stievie FREE"</a></p> </div> <!-- END OUTPUT from 'themes/contrib/bootstrap/templates/field/field.html.twig' --> <!-- THEME DEBUG --> <!-- THEME HOOK: 'field' --> <!-- FILE NAME SUGGESTIONS: * field--default--node--field-labels--story.html.twig * field--default--node--story.html.twig * field--default--node--field-labels.html.twig * field--default--field-labels--story.html.twig * field--default--story.html.twig * field--default--field-labels.html.twig * field--default.html.twig * field--theme-ds-field-default.html.twig * field--node--field-labels--story.html.twig * 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'themes/contrib/bootstrap/templates/field/field.html.twig' --> <!-- THEME DEBUG --> <!-- THEME HOOK: 'field' --> <!-- FILE NAME SUGGESTIONS: * field--default--node--comment-node-story--story.html.twig * field--default--node--story.html.twig * field--default--node--comment-node-story.html.twig * field--default--comment-node-story--story.html.twig * field--default--story.html.twig * field--default--comment-node-story.html.twig * field--default.html.twig * field--theme-ds-field-default.html.twig * field--node--comment-node-story--story.html.twig * field--node--comment-node-story.html.twig * field--node--story.html.twig * field--comment-node-story.html.twig x field--comment.html.twig * field.html.twig --> <!-- BEGIN OUTPUT from 'core/modules/comment/templates/field--comment.html.twig' --> <section> <h2>Comments</h2> <!-- THEME DEBUG --> <!-- THEME HOOK: 'comment__comment_node_story__story' --> <!-- FILE NAME SUGGESTIONS: * comment--comment-node-story--story.html.twig * comment--comment-node-story.html.twig x comment.html.twig --> <!-- BEGIN OUTPUT from 'themes/custom/ottenbourgblog/templates/comment.html.twig' --> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1668" class="js-comment"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1389170851"></mark> <footer> <p>Ingediend door <!-- THEME DEBUG --> <!-- THEME HOOK: 'username' --> <!-- BEGIN OUTPUT from 'core/modules/user/templates/username.html.twig' --> <a rel="nofollow" href="http://earthquake-report.com" lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Anonieme bezoeker</a> <!-- END OUTPUT from 'core/modules/user/templates/username.html.twig' --> op 8/01/2014</p> </footer> <div> <h3><a href="/blog/comment/1668#comment-1668" class="permalink" rel="bookmark" hreflang="nl">Bhaalu of Stievie getest</a></h3> <!-- THEME DEBUG --> <!-- THEME HOOK: 'field' --> <!-- FILE NAME SUGGESTIONS: * field--comment--comment-body--comment-node-story.html.twig * field--comment--comment-body.html.twig * field--comment--comment-node-story.html.twig * field--comment-body.html.twig * field--text-long.html.twig x field.html.twig --> <!-- BEGIN OUTPUT from 'themes/contrib/bootstrap/templates/field/field.html.twig' --> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p> Hallo,Sterke evaluatie van beide systemen. Persoonlijk heb ik Bhaalu eerst op mobiel gebruikt en werk ik nu al enkele weken met de box. 4 kleine opmerkingen ivm met de evaluatie. - Bhaalu heeft ook de Social Media interactie door op het icoontje "delen"  te klikken (Twitter en Facebook)- uitgesteld kijken wordt zelfs 28 dagen (mobiel) of 90 dagen (box) indien programma als "favoriet" aangeduid wordt- de 8 uur testen zijn niet meteen in de tijd beperkt zolang ze niet opgesoupeerd zijnYelo is (helaas) niet uitgesteld te bekijken      </p> </div> <!-- END OUTPUT from 'themes/contrib/bootstrap/templates/field/field.html.twig' --> </div> </article> <!-- END OUTPUT from 'themes/custom/ottenbourgblog/templates/comment.html.twig' --> <!-- THEME DEBUG --> <!-- THEME HOOK: 'comment__comment_node_story__story' --> <!-- FILE NAME SUGGESTIONS: * comment--comment-node-story--story.html.twig * comment--comment-node-story.html.twig x comment.html.twig --> <!-- BEGIN OUTPUT from 'themes/custom/ottenbourgblog/templates/comment.html.twig' --> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1669" class="js-comment"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1389592198"></mark> <footer> <p>Ingediend door <!-- THEME DEBUG --> <!-- THEME HOOK: 'username' --> <!-- BEGIN OUTPUT from 'core/modules/user/templates/username.html.twig' --> <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.bhaalu.com" lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">bhaalu</a> <!-- END OUTPUT from 'core/modules/user/templates/username.html.twig' --> op 13/01/2014</p> </footer> <div> <h3><a href="/blog/comment/1669#comment-1669" class="permalink" rel="bookmark" hreflang="nl">Aanvulling op artikel</a></h3> <!-- THEME DEBUG --> <!-- THEME HOOK: 'field' --> <!-- FILE NAME SUGGESTIONS: * field--comment--comment-body--comment-node-story.html.twig * field--comment--comment-body.html.twig * field--comment--comment-node-story.html.twig * field--comment-body.html.twig * field--text-long.html.twig x field.html.twig --> <!-- BEGIN OUTPUT from 'themes/contrib/bootstrap/templates/field/field.html.twig' --> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Hallo iedereen,Graag had ik het volgende nog toegevoegd aan het interessant artikel: Uitgesteld kijken: kan tot 90 dagen via de bhaalu Box (ook op Mobiel/Stick indien je een Box bezit)TV Gids: Ja, via bhaalu Mobiel (tablet, smartphone, Pc en Mac) met 'sling' functie naar je TvAantal toestellen: onbeperkt (toestel onafhankelijk). Wel maximum één Tv (via Box of Stick) en één mobiel apparaat gelijktijdig.Download snelheid: correct maar ook adaptive streaming voor bhaalu Mobiel en BoxSocial media: gele knop om content aan te raden via Facebook/Twitter + de social media kanalen waar je al de aangeraden content van jezelf, vrienden, familie kan terugvinden. Beestachtige groeten,Yuri van bhaalu     </p> </div> <!-- END OUTPUT from 'themes/contrib/bootstrap/templates/field/field.html.twig' --> </div> </article> <!-- END OUTPUT from 'themes/custom/ottenbourgblog/templates/comment.html.twig' --> <!-- THEME DEBUG --> <!-- THEME HOOK: 'comment__comment_node_story__story' --> <!-- FILE NAME SUGGESTIONS: * comment--comment-node-story--story.html.twig * comment--comment-node-story.html.twig x comment.html.twig --> <!-- BEGIN OUTPUT from 'themes/custom/ottenbourgblog/templates/comment.html.twig' --> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1674" class="js-comment"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1396290256"></mark> <footer> <p>Ingediend door <!-- THEME DEBUG --> <!-- THEME HOOK: 'username' --> <!-- BEGIN OUTPUT from 'core/modules/user/templates/username.html.twig' --> <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">frank ottenbourgh</span> <!-- END OUTPUT from 'core/modules/user/templates/username.html.twig' --> op 31/03/2014</p> </footer> <div> <h3><a href="/blog/comment/1674#comment-1674" class="permalink" rel="bookmark" hreflang="nl">yelo tv</a></h3> <!-- THEME DEBUG --> <!-- THEME HOOK: 'field' --> <!-- FILE NAME SUGGESTIONS: * field--comment--comment-body--comment-node-story.html.twig * field--comment--comment-body.html.twig * field--comment--comment-node-story.html.twig * field--comment-body.html.twig * field--text-long.html.twig x field.html.twig --> <!-- BEGIN OUTPUT from 'themes/contrib/bootstrap/templates/field/field.html.twig' --> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Hallo JanYelo tv is wel optie indien je verbinding maakt via vpn, router asus rt-n66u installeren bij ouders/schoonouders en vpn instellen, werkt perfect,zelf getest vanuit buitenland (zwitserland) ( en binnen paar weken ook de vmm zenders via yelo te bekijken) gtr frank</p> </div> <!-- END OUTPUT from 'themes/contrib/bootstrap/templates/field/field.html.twig' --> </div> </article> <!-- END OUTPUT from 'themes/custom/ottenbourgblog/templates/comment.html.twig' --> <div class="indented"> <!-- THEME DEBUG --> <!-- THEME HOOK: 'comment__comment_node_story__story' --> <!-- FILE NAME SUGGESTIONS: * comment--comment-node-story--story.html.twig * comment--comment-node-story.html.twig x comment.html.twig --> <!-- BEGIN OUTPUT from 'themes/custom/ottenbourgblog/templates/comment.html.twig' --> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1719" class="js-comment"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1420221082"></mark> <footer> <p>Ingediend door <!-- THEME DEBUG --> <!-- THEME HOOK: 'username' --> <!-- BEGIN OUTPUT from 'core/modules/user/templates/username.html.twig' --> <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Louis</span> <!-- END OUTPUT from 'core/modules/user/templates/username.html.twig' --> op 2/01/2015</p> <p class="visually-hidden">Als antwoord op <a href="/blog/comment/1674#comment-1674" class="permalink" rel="bookmark" hreflang="nl">yelo tv</a> door <!-- THEME DEBUG --> <!-- THEME HOOK: 'username' --> <!-- BEGIN OUTPUT from 'core/modules/user/templates/username.html.twig' --> <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">frank ottenbourgh</span> <!-- END OUTPUT from 'core/modules/user/templates/username.html.twig' --> </p> </footer> <div> <h3><a href="/blog/comment/1719#comment-1719" class="permalink" rel="bookmark" hreflang="nl">Yelo tv</a></h3> <!-- THEME DEBUG --> <!-- THEME HOOK: 'field' --> <!-- FILE NAME SUGGESTIONS: * field--comment--comment-body--comment-node-story.html.twig * field--comment--comment-body.html.twig * field--comment--comment-node-story.html.twig * field--comment-body.html.twig * field--text-long.html.twig x field.html.twig --> <!-- BEGIN OUTPUT from 'themes/contrib/bootstrap/templates/field/field.html.twig' --> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Hallo, wij gaan jaarlijks overwinteren in Spanje, hier heb jou bericht over Yelo tv gelezen, zou je dit mij eens kunnen uitleggen, ik ben namelijk een leek betreffende dit VPN. Kan ik dit via mijn zoon in België. Hoe moet ik een konektie opzetten van Belgë naar Spanje?</p> <p>Dank U bijvoorbaat.</p> <p>Louis</p> </div> <!-- END OUTPUT from 'themes/contrib/bootstrap/templates/field/field.html.twig' --> </div> </article> <!-- END OUTPUT from 'themes/custom/ottenbourgblog/templates/comment.html.twig' --> <div class="indented"> <!-- THEME DEBUG --> <!-- THEME HOOK: 'comment__comment_node_story__story' --> <!-- FILE NAME SUGGESTIONS: * comment--comment-node-story--story.html.twig * comment--comment-node-story.html.twig x comment.html.twig --> <!-- BEGIN OUTPUT from 'themes/custom/ottenbourgblog/templates/comment.html.twig' --> <article data-comment-user-id="1" id="comment-1720" class="js-comment"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1420363300"></mark> <footer> <p>Ingediend door <!-- THEME DEBUG --> <!-- THEME HOOK: 'username' --> <!-- BEGIN OUTPUT from 'core/modules/user/templates/username.html.twig' --> <span lang="" about="/blog/users/jan-ottenbourg" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Jan Ottenbourg</span> <!-- END OUTPUT from 'core/modules/user/templates/username.html.twig' --> op 4/01/2015</p> <p class="visually-hidden">Als antwoord op <a href="/blog/comment/1719#comment-1719" class="permalink" rel="bookmark" hreflang="nl">Yelo tv</a> door <!-- THEME DEBUG --> <!-- THEME HOOK: 'username' --> <!-- BEGIN OUTPUT from 'core/modules/user/templates/username.html.twig' --> <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Louis</span> <!-- END OUTPUT from 'core/modules/user/templates/username.html.twig' --> </p> </footer> <div> <h3><a href="/blog/comment/1720#comment-1720" class="permalink" rel="bookmark" hreflang="nl">RE: Yelo tv</a></h3> <!-- THEME DEBUG --> <!-- THEME HOOK: 'field' --> <!-- FILE NAME SUGGESTIONS: * field--comment--comment-body--comment-node-story.html.twig * field--comment--comment-body.html.twig * field--comment--comment-node-story.html.twig * field--comment-body.html.twig * field--text-long.html.twig x field.html.twig --> <!-- BEGIN OUTPUT from 'themes/contrib/bootstrap/templates/field/field.html.twig' --> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Louis,</p> <p>Je zal een VPN moeten opzetten met iemand met een Telenet-verbinding in België, anders zal Yelo TV niet werken. Probleem is voornamelijk de upload-snelheid van Telenet.</p> <p>Om het op te zetten, zie ev. hier <a href="http://userbase.be/forum/viewtopic.php?f=50&amp;t=34489">http://userbase.be/forum/viewtopic.php?f=50&amp;t=34489</a></p> <p>Succes,</p> <p>   Jan</p> </div> <!-- END OUTPUT from 'themes/contrib/bootstrap/templates/field/field.html.twig' --> </div> </article> <!-- END OUTPUT from 'themes/custom/ottenbourgblog/templates/comment.html.twig' --> </div></div> <!-- THEME DEBUG --> <!-- THEME HOOK: 'comment__comment_node_story__story' --> <!-- FILE NAME SUGGESTIONS: * comment--comment-node-story--story.html.twig * comment--comment-node-story.html.twig x comment.html.twig --> <!-- BEGIN OUTPUT from 'themes/custom/ottenbourgblog/templates/comment.html.twig' --> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1696" class="js-comment"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1404714486"></mark> <footer> <p>Ingediend door <!-- THEME DEBUG --> <!-- THEME HOOK: 'username' --> <!-- BEGIN OUTPUT from 'core/modules/user/templates/username.html.twig' --> <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Kristof Derycke</span> <!-- END OUTPUT from 'core/modules/user/templates/username.html.twig' --> op 7/07/2014</p> </footer> <div> <h3><a href="/blog/comment/1696#comment-1696" class="permalink" rel="bookmark" hreflang="nl">Aanvullingen</a></h3> <!-- THEME DEBUG --> <!-- THEME HOOK: 'field' --> <!-- FILE NAME SUGGESTIONS: * field--comment--comment-body--comment-node-story.html.twig * field--comment--comment-body.html.twig * field--comment--comment-node-story.html.twig * field--comment-body.html.twig * field--text-long.html.twig x field.html.twig --> <!-- BEGIN OUTPUT from 'themes/contrib/bootstrap/templates/field/field.html.twig' --> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p> Met stievie heb je ook het voordeel dat je programma's kunt opnemen en later herbekijken zonder dat je internet verbinding nodig hebt. Bijvoorbeeld op het vliegtuig.kijken op tv via stievie op iPad is geen probleem. Er bestaan kabels van iPad naar wit/rood/geel component of scart naar je tv. </p> </div> <!-- END OUTPUT from 'themes/contrib/bootstrap/templates/field/field.html.twig' --> </div> </article> <!-- END OUTPUT from 'themes/custom/ottenbourgblog/templates/comment.html.twig' --> <!-- THEME DEBUG --> <!-- THEME HOOK: 'comment__comment_node_story__story' --> <!-- FILE NAME SUGGESTIONS: * comment--comment-node-story--story.html.twig * comment--comment-node-story.html.twig x comment.html.twig --> <!-- BEGIN OUTPUT from 'themes/custom/ottenbourgblog/templates/comment.html.twig' --> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1712" class="js-comment"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1415549739"></mark> <footer> <p>Ingediend door <!-- THEME DEBUG --> <!-- THEME HOOK: 'username' --> <!-- BEGIN OUTPUT from 'core/modules/user/templates/username.html.twig' --> <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Anonieme bezoeker</span> <!-- END OUTPUT from 'core/modules/user/templates/username.html.twig' --> op 9/11/2014</p> </footer> <div> <h3><a href="/blog/comment/1712#comment-1712" class="permalink" rel="bookmark" hreflang="nl">Laptop</a></h3> <!-- THEME DEBUG --> <!-- THEME HOOK: 'field' --> <!-- FILE NAME SUGGESTIONS: * field--comment--comment-body--comment-node-story.html.twig * field--comment--comment-body.html.twig * field--comment--comment-node-story.html.twig * field--comment-body.html.twig * field--text-long.html.twig x field.html.twig --> <!-- BEGIN OUTPUT from 'themes/contrib/bootstrap/templates/field/field.html.twig' --> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Beste , In uw tekst schrijft u dat Stievie en Bhaalu te ontvangen is op laptop , volgens de technische gegevens is dit niet mogelijk. Wat is de oplossing om te ontvangen op laptop ? mvgr., Lou </p> </div> <!-- END OUTPUT from 'themes/contrib/bootstrap/templates/field/field.html.twig' --> </div> </article> <!-- END OUTPUT from 'themes/custom/ottenbourgblog/templates/comment.html.twig' --> <div class="indented"> <!-- THEME DEBUG --> <!-- THEME HOOK: 'comment__comment_node_story__story' --> <!-- FILE NAME SUGGESTIONS: * comment--comment-node-story--story.html.twig * comment--comment-node-story.html.twig x comment.html.twig --> <!-- BEGIN OUTPUT from 'themes/custom/ottenbourgblog/templates/comment.html.twig' --> <article data-comment-user-id="1" id="comment-1713" class="js-comment"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1415556493"></mark> <footer> <p>Ingediend door <!-- THEME DEBUG --> <!-- THEME HOOK: 'username' --> <!-- BEGIN OUTPUT from 'core/modules/user/templates/username.html.twig' --> <span lang="" about="/blog/users/jan-ottenbourg" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Jan Ottenbourg</span> <!-- END OUTPUT from 'core/modules/user/templates/username.html.twig' --> op 9/11/2014</p> <p class="visually-hidden">Als antwoord op <a href="/blog/comment/1712#comment-1712" class="permalink" rel="bookmark" hreflang="nl">Laptop</a> door <!-- THEME DEBUG --> <!-- THEME HOOK: 'username' --> <!-- BEGIN OUTPUT from 'core/modules/user/templates/username.html.twig' --> <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Anonieme bezoeker</span> <!-- END OUTPUT from 'core/modules/user/templates/username.html.twig' --> </p> </footer> <div> <h3><a href="/blog/comment/1713#comment-1713" class="permalink" rel="bookmark" hreflang="nl">RE: Laptop</a></h3> <!-- THEME DEBUG --> <!-- THEME HOOK: 'field' --> <!-- FILE NAME SUGGESTIONS: * field--comment--comment-body--comment-node-story.html.twig * field--comment--comment-body.html.twig * field--comment--comment-node-story.html.twig * field--comment-body.html.twig * field--text-long.html.twig x field.html.twig --> <!-- BEGIN OUTPUT from 'themes/contrib/bootstrap/templates/field/field.html.twig' --> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Bhaalu is (al) zeker via de laptop te bekijken, Stievie is iets te lang geleden dat het nog geprobeerd heb.<br /><br />Als je via de browser 'inlogt' op Bhaalu krijg je op een Windows-platform de mogelijkheid om een Windows-viewer/programma te downloaden en installeren. Op deze manier kijk je met Bhaalu op je laptop naar Belgische TV.</p> </div> <!-- END OUTPUT from 'themes/contrib/bootstrap/templates/field/field.html.twig' --> </div> </article> <!-- END OUTPUT from 'themes/custom/ottenbourgblog/templates/comment.html.twig' --> </div> <!-- THEME DEBUG --> <!-- THEME HOOK: 'pager' --> <!-- BEGIN OUTPUT from 'themes/contrib/bootstrap/templates/system/pager.html.twig' --> <!-- END OUTPUT from 'themes/contrib/bootstrap/templates/system/pager.html.twig' --> <h2>Reactie toevoegen</h2> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderForm" arguments="0=node&amp;1=1298&amp;2=comment_node_story&amp;3=comment_node_story" token="iZBiPXmUvzpd2TQr7YokPa_IzMF1iFK12jLvW_FcvuA"></drupal-render-placeholder> </section> <!-- END OUTPUT from 'core/modules/comment/templates/field--comment.html.twig' --> </div> </div> <!-- END OUTPUT from 'core/modules/layout_discovery/layouts/onecol/layout--onecol.html.twig' --> <!-- END OUTPUT from 'modules/contrib/ds/templates/ds-entity-view.html.twig' --> Mon, 06 Jan 2014 20:04:12 +0000 Jan Ottenbourg 1298 at https://www.ottenbourg.com/blog Vlaamse TV kijken vanuit het buitenland https://www.ottenbourg.com/blog/2013/02/vlaamse-tv-kijken-vanuit-het-buitenland.html <!-- THEME DEBUG --> <!-- THEME HOOK: 'ds_entity_view' --> <!-- BEGIN OUTPUT from 'modules/contrib/ds/templates/ds-entity-view.html.twig' --> <!-- THEME DEBUG --> <!-- THEME HOOK: 'layout__onecol' --> <!-- FILE NAME SUGGESTIONS: x layout--onecol.html.twig * layout-onecol--node--1217.html.twig * layout-onecol--node-story-fulltext.html.twig * layout-onecol--node-story.html.twig * layout-onecol--node-fulltext.html.twig * layout-onecol--node.html.twig x layout--onecol.html.twig * layout.html.twig --> <!-- BEGIN OUTPUT from 'core/modules/layout_discovery/layouts/onecol/layout--onecol.html.twig' --> <div data-history-node-id="1217" class="layout layout--onecol"> <div class="layout__region layout__region--content"> <!-- THEME DEBUG --> <!-- THEME HOOK: 'field' --> <!-- FILE NAME SUGGESTIONS: * field--default--node--node-post-date--story.html.twig * field--default--node--story.html.twig * field--default--node--node-post-date.html.twig * field--default--node-post-date--story.html.twig * field--default--story.html.twig * field--default--node-post-date.html.twig * field--default.html.twig * field--theme-ds-field-default.html.twig * field--node--node-post-date--story.html.twig * field--node--node-post-date.html.twig * field--node--story.html.twig * field--node-post-date.html.twig * field--ds.html.twig x field.html.twig --> <!-- BEGIN OUTPUT from 'themes/contrib/bootstrap/templates/field/field.html.twig' --> <div class="field field--name-node-post-date field--type-ds field--label-hidden field--item">9/02/2013</div> <!-- END OUTPUT from 'themes/contrib/bootstrap/templates/field/field.html.twig' --> <!-- THEME DEBUG --> <!-- THEME HOOK: 'field' --> <!-- FILE NAME SUGGESTIONS: * field--default--node--body--story.html.twig * field--default--node--story.html.twig * field--default--node--body.html.twig * field--default--body--story.html.twig * field--default--story.html.twig * field--default--body.html.twig * field--default.html.twig * field--theme-ds-field-default.html.twig * field--node--body--story.html.twig * field--node--body.html.twig * field--node--story.html.twig * field--body.html.twig * field--text-with-summary.html.twig x field.html.twig --> <!-- BEGIN OUTPUT from 'themes/contrib/bootstrap/templates/field/field.html.twig' --> <div class="field field--name-body field--type-text-with-summary field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Om <strong>Vlaamse televisie</strong> te kijken <strong>in het buitenland</strong> (zonder schotelantenne) hebben we al <a href="//www.ottenbourg.com/blog/2010/11/streaming-van-vlaamse-tv-de-slingbox-pro.html">vanalles</a> geprobeerd.<br /><a href="https://weepee.tv" target="_blank">WeepeeTV</a> werd <a href="http://www.zdnet.be/nieuws/146311/online-tv-aanbieder-weepeetv-lanceert-vandaag/" target="_blank">enkele maanden geleden gelanceerd</a> en lijkt nu een nieuw alternatief te zijn om beeld en geluid te <strong>streamen via internet</strong>.</p> <p><img src="//www.ottenbourg.com/blog/uploaded_images/weepeeTV.gif" alt="WeepeeTV logo" width="500" height="193" /></p> <p>Naast VTM, één, Canvas, 2BE? Kanaal Z,  JIM, Vitaya, vtmK-Zoom en Ketnet krijg je er nog enkele Engelstalige zenders bij.</p> <p><strong>Ideaal voor expats </strong>(zoals wij) of Vlamingen op vakantie lijkt me (telkens via een VPN connectie welliswaar). We gaan het allemaal eens uitproberen vanuit Dubai... </p> <p>P.S. Via <a href="http://blog.42.be" target="_blank">Wim</a> kan je zelfs een <a href="http://blog.42.be/p/weepeetv.html" target="_blank">'unofficial' WeepeeTV versie voor Android</a> downloaden en zo de TV kanalen bekijken..</p> <p><strong>UPDATE (2014)</strong> : <a href="//www.ottenbourg.com/blog/2014/01/stievie-en-bhaalu-getest-voor-expats.html">Stievie en Bhaalu getest voor expats</a></p> </div> <!-- END OUTPUT from 'themes/contrib/bootstrap/templates/field/field.html.twig' --> <!-- THEME DEBUG --> <!-- THEME HOOK: 'field' --> <!-- FILE NAME SUGGESTIONS: * field--default--node--field-labels--story.html.twig * field--default--node--story.html.twig * field--default--node--field-labels.html.twig * field--default--field-labels--story.html.twig * field--default--story.html.twig * field--default--field-labels.html.twig * field--default.html.twig * field--theme-ds-field-default.html.twig * field--node--field-labels--story.html.twig * field--node--field-labels.html.twig * field--node--story.html.twig * field--field-labels.html.twig * field--entity-reference.html.twig x field.html.twig --> <!-- BEGIN OUTPUT from 'themes/contrib/bootstrap/templates/field/field.html.twig' --> <div class="field field--name-field-labels field--type-entity-reference field--label-hidden field--items"> <div class="field--item"><a href="/blog/labels/vakantie" hreflang="nl">vakantie</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/blog/labels/tv" hreflang="nl">TV</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/blog/labels/streaming" hreflang="nl">streaming</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/blog/labels/expat" hreflang="nl">expat</a></div> </div> <!-- END OUTPUT from 'themes/contrib/bootstrap/templates/field/field.html.twig' --> <!-- THEME DEBUG --> <!-- THEME HOOK: 'field' --> <!-- FILE NAME SUGGESTIONS: * field--default--node--comment-node-story--story.html.twig * field--default--node--story.html.twig * field--default--node--comment-node-story.html.twig * field--default--comment-node-story--story.html.twig * field--default--story.html.twig * field--default--comment-node-story.html.twig * field--default.html.twig * field--theme-ds-field-default.html.twig * field--node--comment-node-story--story.html.twig * field--node--comment-node-story.html.twig * field--node--story.html.twig * field--comment-node-story.html.twig x field--comment.html.twig * field.html.twig --> <!-- BEGIN OUTPUT from 'core/modules/comment/templates/field--comment.html.twig' --> <section> <h2>Reactie toevoegen</h2> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderForm" arguments="0=node&amp;1=1217&amp;2=comment_node_story&amp;3=comment_node_story" token="UP8-jmz2FQNjjSterIo_K0YvAbW5KjUsirF7cyZcYG0"></drupal-render-placeholder> </section> <!-- END OUTPUT from 'core/modules/comment/templates/field--comment.html.twig' --> </div> </div> <!-- END OUTPUT from 'core/modules/layout_discovery/layouts/onecol/layout--onecol.html.twig' --> <!-- END OUTPUT from 'modules/contrib/ds/templates/ds-entity-view.html.twig' --> Sat, 09 Feb 2013 17:11:58 +0000 Jan Ottenbourg 1217 at https://www.ottenbourg.com/blog Streaming van Vlaamse TV via de Slingbox Pro https://www.ottenbourg.com/blog/2010/11/streaming-van-vlaamse-tv-de-slingbox-pro.html <!-- THEME DEBUG --> <!-- THEME HOOK: 'ds_entity_view' --> <!-- BEGIN OUTPUT from 'modules/contrib/ds/templates/ds-entity-view.html.twig' --> <!-- THEME DEBUG --> <!-- THEME HOOK: 'layout__onecol' --> <!-- FILE NAME SUGGESTIONS: x layout--onecol.html.twig * layout-onecol--node--952.html.twig * layout-onecol--node-story-fulltext.html.twig * layout-onecol--node-story.html.twig * layout-onecol--node-fulltext.html.twig * layout-onecol--node.html.twig x layout--onecol.html.twig * layout.html.twig --> <!-- BEGIN OUTPUT from 'core/modules/layout_discovery/layouts/onecol/layout--onecol.html.twig' --> <div data-history-node-id="952" class="layout layout--onecol"> <div class="layout__region layout__region--content"> <!-- THEME DEBUG --> <!-- THEME HOOK: 'field' --> <!-- FILE NAME SUGGESTIONS: * field--default--node--node-post-date--story.html.twig * field--default--node--story.html.twig * field--default--node--node-post-date.html.twig * field--default--node-post-date--story.html.twig * field--default--story.html.twig * field--default--node-post-date.html.twig * field--default.html.twig * field--theme-ds-field-default.html.twig * field--node--node-post-date--story.html.twig * field--node--node-post-date.html.twig * field--node--story.html.twig * field--node-post-date.html.twig * field--ds.html.twig x field.html.twig --> <!-- BEGIN OUTPUT from 'themes/contrib/bootstrap/templates/field/field.html.twig' --> <div class="field field--name-node-post-date field--type-ds field--label-hidden field--item">2/11/2010</div> <!-- END OUTPUT from 'themes/contrib/bootstrap/templates/field/field.html.twig' --> <!-- THEME DEBUG --> <!-- THEME HOOK: 'field' --> <!-- FILE NAME SUGGESTIONS: * field--default--node--body--story.html.twig * field--default--node--story.html.twig * field--default--node--body.html.twig * field--default--body--story.html.twig * field--default--story.html.twig * field--default--body.html.twig * field--default.html.twig * field--theme-ds-field-default.html.twig * field--node--body--story.html.twig * field--node--body.html.twig * field--node--story.html.twig * field--body.html.twig * field--text-with-summary.html.twig x field.html.twig --> <!-- BEGIN OUTPUT from 'themes/contrib/bootstrap/templates/field/field.html.twig' --> <div class="field field--name-body field--type-text-with-summary field--label-hidden field--item"><p>'k Ben <a href="//www.ottenbourg.com/blog/2008/01/live-streaming-van-vlaamse-radio-tv.html">al langer</a> op zoek naar een manier om <strong>Vlaamse TV "live" in Tahiti</strong> te krijgen. Geen offline- of video-on-demand toestanden... echt "live" TV volgen.</p> <p><a target="_blank" href="http://www.bvn.tv">BVN</a> (De <strong>publieke televisiezender voor Nederlanders en Vlamingen in het buitenland</strong>) is helaas geen optie want dat signaal wordt niet uitgezonden via sateliet in de Stille Zuidzee.</p> <p>Het enge alternatief is dan <strong>streaming via internet</strong>, maar tot voor kort was zelfs dat geen optie. Maar nu de <a href="//www.ottenbourg.com/blog/2007/08/internet-de-kabel-2009.html">optische glasvezelkabel tussen Tahiti en Hawaï</a> (<a target="_blank" href="http://groupe.opt.pf">Honotua</a>) eindelijk <a href="http://www.lesnouvelles.pf/fenua/societe/7651-haut-debit-les-prix-valent-ils-le-coup-.html">operationeel</a> is en er een <a href="http://www.mana.pf/_par/particuliers.php?r3=45">"no limit" ADSL-abonnement</a> beschikbaar is, heb ik nog eens een poging gewaagd...</p> <p>Via een <a target="_blank" href="http://nl.slingbox.com/go/slingbox-pro">Slingbox Pro</a> (gekocht via <a target="_blank" href="https://www.defisat.be/">Defisat</a>) heb ik onze <strong>analoge kabel-TV</strong> aan mijn <strong>internetaansluitin</strong>g (beide van <a target="_blank" href="https://www2.telenet.be/nl/">Telenet</a>) gekoppeld in ons huis in <a target="_blank" href="https://www.tienen.be/">Tienen</a>. Via de meegeleverde <a target="_blank" href="http://support.slingbox.com/go/slingplayer-windows">SlingPlayer</a>-software kunnen we nu <strong>altijd en overal</strong> (vanop een PC weliswaar) de Belgische kanalen selecteren en <strong>doorsturen via het internet</strong>.</p> <p><img alt="SlingPlayer screenshot" width="650" height="603" src="//www.ottenbourg.com/blog/uploaded_images/slingplayer.jpg" /></p> <p>Onze eerste "test" was <a href="https://www.een.be/programmas/de-laatste-show">De Laatste Show</a> van maandagavond (voor ons maandagvoormmiddag), waarin ook schrijver <a target="_blank" href="http://www.bartdebbaut.be">Bart Debbaut</a> te gast was.</p> <p>De <strong>kwaliteit van de audio</strong> was goed, het <strong>beeld</strong> was, wegens de <strong>compressie</strong>, wat <strong>minder scherp</strong> maar wel "bekijkbaar".<br />Het is eenvoudig om van post te veranderen (ook vanop afstand dus), en het beeld kan <strong>full-screen</strong> getoond worden, waardoor je op een externe monitor toch nog een beetje dat "TV-gevoel" krijgt.</p> <p>Al bij al een geslaagde aankoop, met potentieel! Waarschijnlijk zal een <strong>hoger download debiet</strong> een <strong>betere beeld-kwaliteit</strong> kunnen leveren. Volgende test zal dan voor volgende week zijn, want dan zitten we in Tokyo, Japan.</p> <p>Tot slot nog even meegeven dat je via de <a target="_blank" href="http://nl.slingbox.com/go/slingcatcher">SlingCatcher</a> het gestreamde TV-beeld zou kunnen omzetten naar een echt TV-signaal, zodat je niet meer op je PC hoeft te kijken (via de <a target="_blank" href="http://support.slingbox.com/go/slingplayer-windows">SlingPlayer</a>-software) maar rechtstreeks op je TV!<br />Wie heeft er al ervaring hiermee?!</p> <p><strong>UPDATE (2014)</strong> : <a href="//www.ottenbourg.com/blog/2014/01/stievie-en-bhaalu-getest-voor-expats.html">Stievie en Bhaalu getest voor expats</a></p> </div> <!-- END OUTPUT from 'themes/contrib/bootstrap/templates/field/field.html.twig' --> <!-- THEME DEBUG --> <!-- THEME HOOK: 'field' --> <!-- FILE NAME SUGGESTIONS: * field--default--node--field-labels--story.html.twig * field--default--node--story.html.twig * field--default--node--field-labels.html.twig * field--default--field-labels--story.html.twig * field--default--story.html.twig * field--default--field-labels.html.twig * field--default.html.twig * field--theme-ds-field-default.html.twig * field--node--field-labels--story.html.twig * field--node--field-labels.html.twig * field--node--story.html.twig * field--field-labels.html.twig * field--entity-reference.html.twig x field.html.twig --> <!-- BEGIN OUTPUT from 'themes/contrib/bootstrap/templates/field/field.html.twig' --> <div class="field field--name-field-labels field--type-entity-reference field--label-hidden field--items"> <div class="field--item"><a href="/blog/labels/tv" hreflang="nl">TV</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/blog/labels/tahiti" hreflang="nl">Tahiti</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/blog/labels/streaming" hreflang="nl">streaming</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/blog/labels/slingmedia.html" hreflang="nl">SlingMedia</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/blog/labels/slingbox.html" hreflang="nl">SlingBox</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/blog/labels/internet" hreflang="nl">internet</a></div> </div> <!-- END OUTPUT from 'themes/contrib/bootstrap/templates/field/field.html.twig' --> <!-- THEME DEBUG --> <!-- THEME HOOK: 'field' --> <!-- FILE NAME SUGGESTIONS: * field--default--node--comment-node-story--story.html.twig * field--default--node--story.html.twig * field--default--node--comment-node-story.html.twig * field--default--comment-node-story--story.html.twig * field--default--story.html.twig * field--default--comment-node-story.html.twig * field--default.html.twig * field--theme-ds-field-default.html.twig * field--node--comment-node-story--story.html.twig * field--node--comment-node-story.html.twig * field--node--story.html.twig * field--comment-node-story.html.twig x field--comment.html.twig * field.html.twig --> <!-- BEGIN OUTPUT from 'core/modules/comment/templates/field--comment.html.twig' --> <section> <h2>Comments</h2> <!-- THEME DEBUG --> <!-- THEME HOOK: 'comment__comment_node_story__story' --> <!-- FILE NAME SUGGESTIONS: * comment--comment-node-story--story.html.twig * comment--comment-node-story.html.twig x comment.html.twig --> <!-- BEGIN OUTPUT from 'themes/custom/ottenbourgblog/templates/comment.html.twig' --> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1397" class="js-comment"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1288813811"></mark> <footer> <p>Ingediend door <!-- THEME DEBUG --> <!-- THEME HOOK: 'username' --> <!-- BEGIN OUTPUT from 'core/modules/user/templates/username.html.twig' --> <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.ngaloppo.org" lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Nico</a> <!-- END OUTPUT from 'core/modules/user/templates/username.html.twig' --> op 3/11/2010</p> </footer> <div> <h3><a href="/blog/comment/1397#comment-1397" class="permalink" rel="bookmark" hreflang="nl">Ik heb ook al gespeeld met</a></h3> <!-- THEME DEBUG --> <!-- THEME HOOK: 'field' --> <!-- FILE NAME SUGGESTIONS: * field--comment--comment-body--comment-node-story.html.twig * field--comment--comment-body.html.twig * field--comment--comment-node-story.html.twig * field--comment-body.html.twig * field--text-long.html.twig x field.html.twig --> <!-- BEGIN OUTPUT from 'themes/contrib/bootstrap/templates/field/field.html.twig' --> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Ik heb ook al gespeeld met het idee om een Slingbox te installeren bij mijn vader thuis, zodat we hier in Portland de Vlaamse TV kunnen ontvangen. Naast het feit dat hij waarschijnlijk zal moeten upgraden naar een unlimited abonnement (is er een groot prijsverschil?), vraag ik me vooral af of ik dan zijn bandwidth niet volledig ga satureren terwijl wij lekker TV zitten te kijken (vooral de upload bw is meestal beperkter dan de download bw). </p> <p>Heb jij een gevoel voor het bandwidth-gebruik?</p> </div> <!-- END OUTPUT from 'themes/contrib/bootstrap/templates/field/field.html.twig' --> </div> </article> <!-- END OUTPUT from 'themes/custom/ottenbourgblog/templates/comment.html.twig' --> <!-- THEME DEBUG --> <!-- THEME HOOK: 'comment__comment_node_story__story' --> <!-- FILE NAME SUGGESTIONS: * comment--comment-node-story--story.html.twig * comment--comment-node-story.html.twig x comment.html.twig --> <!-- BEGIN OUTPUT from 'themes/custom/ottenbourgblog/templates/comment.html.twig' --> <article data-comment-user-id="1" id="comment-1398" class="js-comment"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1288931269"></mark> <footer> <p>Ingediend door <!-- THEME DEBUG --> <!-- THEME HOOK: 'username' --> <!-- BEGIN OUTPUT from 'core/modules/user/templates/username.html.twig' --> <span lang="" about="/blog/users/jan-ottenbourg" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Jan Ottenbourg</span> <!-- END OUTPUT from 'core/modules/user/templates/username.html.twig' --> op 5/11/2010</p> </footer> <div> <h3><a href="/blog/comment/1398#comment-1398" class="permalink" rel="bookmark" hreflang="nl">RE: Ik heb ook al gespeeld met</a></h3> <!-- THEME DEBUG --> <!-- THEME HOOK: 'field' --> <!-- FILE NAME SUGGESTIONS: * field--comment--comment-body--comment-node-story.html.twig * field--comment--comment-body.html.twig * field--comment--comment-node-story.html.twig * field--comment-body.html.twig * field--text-long.html.twig x field.html.twig --> <!-- BEGIN OUTPUT from 'themes/contrib/bootstrap/templates/field/field.html.twig' --> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>De upload-snelheid (amper 256Kbps in ons huis in België) zal zeker een rol spelen in de kwaliteit die wij hier (1Mbps download) te zien krijgen.</p> </div> <!-- END OUTPUT from 'themes/contrib/bootstrap/templates/field/field.html.twig' --> </div> </article> <!-- END OUTPUT from 'themes/custom/ottenbourgblog/templates/comment.html.twig' --> <!-- THEME DEBUG --> <!-- THEME HOOK: 'comment__comment_node_story__story' --> <!-- FILE NAME SUGGESTIONS: * comment--comment-node-story--story.html.twig * comment--comment-node-story.html.twig x comment.html.twig --> <!-- BEGIN OUTPUT from 'themes/custom/ottenbourgblog/templates/comment.html.twig' --> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1458" class="js-comment"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1303339665"></mark> <footer> <p>Ingediend door <!-- THEME DEBUG --> <!-- THEME HOOK: 'username' --> <!-- BEGIN OUTPUT from 'core/modules/user/templates/username.html.twig' --> <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">global nomad</span> <!-- END OUTPUT from 'core/modules/user/templates/username.html.twig' --> op 21/04/2011</p> </footer> <div> <h3><a href="/blog/comment/1458#comment-1458" class="permalink" rel="bookmark" hreflang="nl">je kan een tv toestel</a></h3> <!-- THEME DEBUG --> <!-- THEME HOOK: 'field' --> <!-- FILE NAME SUGGESTIONS: * field--comment--comment-body--comment-node-story.html.twig * field--comment--comment-body.html.twig * field--comment--comment-node-story.html.twig * field--comment-body.html.twig * field--text-long.html.twig x field.html.twig --> <!-- BEGIN OUTPUT from 'themes/contrib/bootstrap/templates/field/field.html.twig' --> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>je kan een tv toestel aansluiten aan je computer via hdmi kabel. Ik doe dat ook en kijk zo belgische tv in het buitenland dmv een slingbox en een telenet digicorder.<br /> Het werkt perfekt, het is net alsof ik in belgie tv aan het kijken ben.</p> </div> <!-- END OUTPUT from 'themes/contrib/bootstrap/templates/field/field.html.twig' --> </div> </article> <!-- END OUTPUT from 'themes/custom/ottenbourgblog/templates/comment.html.twig' --> <div class="indented"> <!-- THEME DEBUG --> <!-- THEME HOOK: 'comment__comment_node_story__story' --> <!-- FILE NAME SUGGESTIONS: * comment--comment-node-story--story.html.twig * comment--comment-node-story.html.twig x comment.html.twig --> <!-- BEGIN OUTPUT from 'themes/custom/ottenbourgblog/templates/comment.html.twig' --> <article data-comment-user-id="1" id="comment-1459" class="js-comment"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1303341806"></mark> <footer> <p>Ingediend door <!-- THEME DEBUG --> <!-- THEME HOOK: 'username' --> <!-- BEGIN OUTPUT from 'core/modules/user/templates/username.html.twig' --> <span lang="" about="/blog/users/jan-ottenbourg" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Jan Ottenbourg</span> <!-- END OUTPUT from 'core/modules/user/templates/username.html.twig' --> op 21/04/2011</p> <p class="visually-hidden">Als antwoord op <a href="/blog/comment/1458#comment-1458" class="permalink" rel="bookmark" hreflang="nl">je kan een tv toestel</a> door <!-- THEME DEBUG --> <!-- THEME HOOK: 'username' --> <!-- BEGIN OUTPUT from 'core/modules/user/templates/username.html.twig' --> <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">global nomad</span> <!-- END OUTPUT from 'core/modules/user/templates/username.html.twig' --> </p> </footer> <div> <h3><a href="/blog/comment/1459#comment-1459" class="permalink" rel="bookmark" hreflang="nl">RE: je kan een tv toestel</a></h3> <!-- THEME DEBUG --> <!-- THEME HOOK: 'field' --> <!-- FILE NAME SUGGESTIONS: * field--comment--comment-body--comment-node-story.html.twig * field--comment--comment-body.html.twig * field--comment--comment-node-story.html.twig * field--comment-body.html.twig * field--text-long.html.twig x field.html.twig --> <!-- BEGIN OUTPUT from 'themes/contrib/bootstrap/templates/field/field.html.twig' --> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p> Interessante tip inderdaad. Eens uittesten.</p> </div> <!-- END OUTPUT from 'themes/contrib/bootstrap/templates/field/field.html.twig' --> </div> </article> <!-- END OUTPUT from 'themes/custom/ottenbourgblog/templates/comment.html.twig' --> </div> <!-- THEME DEBUG --> <!-- THEME HOOK: 'comment__comment_node_story__story' --> <!-- FILE NAME SUGGESTIONS: * comment--comment-node-story--story.html.twig * comment--comment-node-story.html.twig x comment.html.twig --> <!-- BEGIN OUTPUT from 'themes/custom/ottenbourgblog/templates/comment.html.twig' --> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1485" class="js-comment"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1311978043"></mark> <footer> <p>Ingediend door <!-- THEME DEBUG --> <!-- THEME HOOK: 'username' --> <!-- BEGIN OUTPUT from 'core/modules/user/templates/username.html.twig' --> <a rel="nofollow" href="http://expattvvlaanderen.blogspot.com" lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Expat TV Vlaanderen</a> <!-- END OUTPUT from 'core/modules/user/templates/username.html.twig' --> op 30/07/2011</p> </footer> <div> <h3><a href="/blog/comment/1485#comment-1485" class="permalink" rel="bookmark" hreflang="nl">Vlaamse TV in het buitenland</a></h3> <!-- THEME DEBUG --> <!-- THEME HOOK: 'field' --> <!-- FILE NAME SUGGESTIONS: * field--comment--comment-body--comment-node-story.html.twig * field--comment--comment-body.html.twig * field--comment--comment-node-story.html.twig * field--comment-body.html.twig * field--text-long.html.twig x field.html.twig --> <!-- BEGIN OUTPUT from 'themes/contrib/bootstrap/templates/field/field.html.twig' --> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Vele expats zitten met dezelfde vragen, daarom heb ik een website over Vlaamse TV in het buitenland gemaakt. Je kan hem vinden op: <a href="http://expattvvlaanderen.blogspot.com">http://expattvvlaanderen.blogspot.com</a><br /> Feedback is altijd welkom</p> </div> <!-- END OUTPUT from 'themes/contrib/bootstrap/templates/field/field.html.twig' --> </div> </article> <!-- END OUTPUT from 'themes/custom/ottenbourgblog/templates/comment.html.twig' --> <div class="indented"> <!-- THEME DEBUG --> <!-- THEME HOOK: 'comment__comment_node_story__story' --> <!-- FILE NAME SUGGESTIONS: * comment--comment-node-story--story.html.twig * comment--comment-node-story.html.twig x comment.html.twig --> <!-- BEGIN OUTPUT from 'themes/custom/ottenbourgblog/templates/comment.html.twig' --> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1499" class="js-comment"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1317246142"></mark> <footer> <p>Ingediend door <!-- THEME DEBUG --> <!-- THEME HOOK: 'username' --> <!-- BEGIN OUTPUT from 'core/modules/user/templates/username.html.twig' --> <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">global nomad</span> <!-- END OUTPUT from 'core/modules/user/templates/username.html.twig' --> op 29/09/2011</p> <p class="visually-hidden">Als antwoord op <a href="/blog/comment/1485#comment-1485" class="permalink" rel="bookmark" hreflang="nl">Vlaamse TV in het buitenland</a> door <!-- THEME DEBUG --> <!-- THEME HOOK: 'username' --> <!-- BEGIN OUTPUT from 'core/modules/user/templates/username.html.twig' --> <a rel="nofollow" href="http://expattvvlaanderen.blogspot.com" lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Expat TV Vlaanderen</a> <!-- END OUTPUT from 'core/modules/user/templates/username.html.twig' --> </p> </footer> <div> <h3><a href="/blog/comment/1499#comment-1499" class="permalink" rel="bookmark" hreflang="nl">Een telenet digicorder </a></h3> <!-- THEME DEBUG --> <!-- THEME HOOK: 'field' --> <!-- FILE NAME SUGGESTIONS: * field--comment--comment-body--comment-node-story.html.twig * field--comment--comment-body.html.twig * field--comment--comment-node-story.html.twig * field--comment-body.html.twig * field--text-long.html.twig x field.html.twig --> <!-- BEGIN OUTPUT from 'themes/contrib/bootstrap/templates/field/field.html.twig' --> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Het handigste is in Belgie een Telenet digicorder.<br /> Hierop kan je gelijktijdig 2 programma's opnemen.<br /> Het programmeren van de digicorder kan via je slingbox of nog handiger via de site van telenet (yelo.be)<br /> De opgenomen programma's op je digicorder kan je via de slingbox bekijken wanneer je zin en tijd hebt (handig ivm het tijdsverschil) De digibox bedienen (en wissen) doe je via de afstandsbediening op het scherm van de slingbox.<br /> Als je een TV aansluit via HDMI van laptop naar computer is het net alsof je in Belgie in je zetel tv kijkt.<br /> Een aansluiting in het buitenland van 2Mb is voldoende (test via speedtest.net en kies de server telenet in Mechelen)<br /> Upload in Belgie van 1Mb is zeker voldoende.<br /> De limieten in Belgie zijn recent aanzienlijk toegenomen of weggevallen zodat zich op dat vlak weinig problemen stellen.<br /> Ik kijk ongeveer 3h per dag in het buitenland via de slingbox en upload in Belgie hierdoor ongeveer 60Gb per maand.<br /> Ik ben super blij met de slingbox!</p> </div> <!-- END OUTPUT from 'themes/contrib/bootstrap/templates/field/field.html.twig' --> </div> </article> <!-- END OUTPUT from 'themes/custom/ottenbourgblog/templates/comment.html.twig' --> <!-- THEME DEBUG --> <!-- THEME HOOK: 'comment__comment_node_story__story' --> <!-- FILE NAME SUGGESTIONS: * comment--comment-node-story--story.html.twig * comment--comment-node-story.html.twig x comment.html.twig --> <!-- BEGIN OUTPUT from 'themes/custom/ottenbourgblog/templates/comment.html.twig' --> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1500" class="js-comment"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1317278227"></mark> <footer> <p>Ingediend door <!-- THEME DEBUG --> <!-- THEME HOOK: 'username' --> <!-- BEGIN OUTPUT from 'core/modules/user/templates/username.html.twig' --> <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">global nomad</span> <!-- END OUTPUT from 'core/modules/user/templates/username.html.twig' --> op 29/09/2011</p> <p class="visually-hidden">Als antwoord op <a href="/blog/comment/1485#comment-1485" class="permalink" rel="bookmark" hreflang="nl">Vlaamse TV in het buitenland</a> door <!-- THEME DEBUG --> <!-- THEME HOOK: 'username' --> <!-- BEGIN OUTPUT from 'core/modules/user/templates/username.html.twig' --> <a rel="nofollow" href="http://expattvvlaanderen.blogspot.com" lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Expat TV Vlaanderen</a> <!-- END OUTPUT from 'core/modules/user/templates/username.html.twig' --> </p> </footer> <div> <h3><a href="/blog/comment/1500#comment-1500" class="permalink" rel="bookmark" hreflang="nl">update slingbox</a></h3> <!-- THEME DEBUG --> <!-- THEME HOOK: 'field' --> <!-- FILE NAME SUGGESTIONS: * field--comment--comment-body--comment-node-story.html.twig * field--comment--comment-body.html.twig * field--comment--comment-node-story.html.twig * field--comment-body.html.twig * field--text-long.html.twig x field.html.twig --> <!-- BEGIN OUTPUT from 'themes/contrib/bootstrap/templates/field/field.html.twig' --> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Zelf gebruik ik de slingbox en wil graag hierover een update geven.</p> <p>Het handigste is als je in Belgie (eventueel bij een kennis) je eigen tv aansluiting met telenet digicorder hebt staan. Je kan eventueel bij een kennis een extra digicorder laten plaatsen zodat je die zelf volledig onafhankelijk kan gebruiken. Een extra digicorder kost minder dan 10E per maand.<br /> Voordeel van de digicorder is dat je deze vanaf de telenetsite online kan programmeren en 2 programmas tegelijk kan laten opnemenen (<a href="http://www.yelo.be">www.yelo.be</a>)<br /> Het zou eventueel ook met BelgacomTV kunnen maar nadeel hiervan is dat je slechts 1 programma tegelijk kan opnemenen. Voorts gebruik je dezelfde intenetverbinding waarlangs het tv signaal binnenkomt en terug buitengaat via de slingbox, dat zou wel eens voor een mogelijk probleem kunnen zorgen.....<br /> De digicorder verbind je aan een slingbox zodat die de video en audio over internet doorstuurd waar je ook bent. Anderzijds biedt de slingbox de mogelijkheid om met een, met muis aanklikbare op het scherm afstandsbediening, de digicorder volledig te bedienen alsof je in vlaanderen thuis in de zetel zou zitten.<br /> Je kan nu via de slingbox de opgenomen programmas op de digicorder bekijken wanneer je wil wat zeker met het tijdsverschil een voordeel is. Zelf sluit ik mijn laptop via een hdmi kabel aan op een tv, kies voor volledig scherm, en de kwaliteit is eigenlijk bijna evengoed alsof je in vlaanderen kijkt.<br /> Op de slingbox pro kan je kiezen tussen 4 aangesloten toestellen (elk met hun toestel-eigen afstandsbediening) of ingangen. Je kan dus behalve de digicorder ook nog een andere HD recorder aansluiten en bedienen, een bewakingscamera, etc....<br /> In het buitenland heb je een internetaansluiting nodig van ongeveer 2Mb (test via <a href="http://www.speednet.net">www.speednet.net</a> kies daar voor de telenetserver in Mechelen) In het Belgie heb je een aansluiting nodig met een upload van minstens 1Mb. (lager kan ook, maar dan is de kwaliteit wat minder) Intussen zijn de datavolumes van internetabonnementen in Belgie fors opgetrokken of geschrapt zodat zich hier geen probleem meer stelt. Zelf kijk in ongeveer 3h per dag in de beste kwaliteit en dat resulteert in een maandelijkse upload in Belgie van ongeveer 60Gb.<br /> Het bekijken van streams op bv <a href="http://www.deredactie.be">www.deredactie.be</a> lukt mij niet omdat mijn internetverbinding in het buitenland niet snel genoeg is en de ping te hoog is. Maar de slingbox gebruikt een speciaal protocol en wringt er zich zelfs op een minder goede verbinding door. Ik ben echt superblij met de slingbox!!</p> </div> <!-- END OUTPUT from 'themes/contrib/bootstrap/templates/field/field.html.twig' --> </div> </article> <!-- END OUTPUT from 'themes/custom/ottenbourgblog/templates/comment.html.twig' --> </div> <!-- THEME DEBUG --> <!-- THEME HOOK: 'pager' --> <!-- BEGIN OUTPUT from 'themes/contrib/bootstrap/templates/system/pager.html.twig' --> <!-- END OUTPUT from 'themes/contrib/bootstrap/templates/system/pager.html.twig' --> <h2>Reactie toevoegen</h2> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderForm" arguments="0=node&amp;1=952&amp;2=comment_node_story&amp;3=comment_node_story" token="-S-KqQC6QPSAI6sCT6HzVrL3BOqsK06gbAm4eMa0G20"></drupal-render-placeholder> </section> <!-- END OUTPUT from 'core/modules/comment/templates/field--comment.html.twig' --> </div> </div> <!-- END OUTPUT from 'core/modules/layout_discovery/layouts/onecol/layout--onecol.html.twig' --> <!-- END OUTPUT from 'modules/contrib/ds/templates/ds-entity-view.html.twig' --> Mon, 01 Nov 2010 22:42:06 +0000 Jan Ottenbourg 952 at https://www.ottenbourg.com/blog Live Streaming van Vlaamse Radio & TV https://www.ottenbourg.com/blog/2008/01/live-streaming-van-vlaamse-radio-tv.html <!-- THEME DEBUG --> <!-- THEME HOOK: 'ds_entity_view' --> <!-- BEGIN OUTPUT from 'modules/contrib/ds/templates/ds-entity-view.html.twig' --> <!-- THEME DEBUG --> <!-- THEME HOOK: 'layout__onecol' --> <!-- FILE NAME SUGGESTIONS: x layout--onecol.html.twig * layout-onecol--node--539.html.twig * layout-onecol--node-story-fulltext.html.twig * layout-onecol--node-story.html.twig * layout-onecol--node-fulltext.html.twig * layout-onecol--node.html.twig x layout--onecol.html.twig * layout.html.twig --> <!-- BEGIN OUTPUT from 'core/modules/layout_discovery/layouts/onecol/layout--onecol.html.twig' --> <div data-history-node-id="539" class="layout layout--onecol"> <div class="layout__region layout__region--content"> <!-- THEME DEBUG --> <!-- THEME HOOK: 'field' --> <!-- FILE NAME SUGGESTIONS: * field--default--node--node-post-date--story.html.twig * field--default--node--story.html.twig * field--default--node--node-post-date.html.twig * field--default--node-post-date--story.html.twig * field--default--story.html.twig * field--default--node-post-date.html.twig * field--default.html.twig * field--theme-ds-field-default.html.twig * field--node--node-post-date--story.html.twig * field--node--node-post-date.html.twig * field--node--story.html.twig * field--node-post-date.html.twig * field--ds.html.twig x field.html.twig --> <!-- BEGIN OUTPUT from 'themes/contrib/bootstrap/templates/field/field.html.twig' --> <div class="field field--name-node-post-date field--type-ds field--label-hidden field--item">6/01/2008</div> <!-- END OUTPUT from 'themes/contrib/bootstrap/templates/field/field.html.twig' --> <!-- THEME DEBUG --> <!-- THEME HOOK: 'field' --> <!-- FILE NAME SUGGESTIONS: * field--default--node--body--story.html.twig * field--default--node--story.html.twig * field--default--node--body.html.twig * field--default--body--story.html.twig * field--default--story.html.twig * field--default--body.html.twig * field--default.html.twig * field--theme-ds-field-default.html.twig * field--node--body--story.html.twig * field--node--body.html.twig * field--node--story.html.twig * field--body.html.twig * field--text-with-summary.html.twig x field.html.twig --> <!-- BEGIN OUTPUT from 'themes/contrib/bootstrap/templates/field/field.html.twig' --> <div class="field field--name-body field--type-text-with-summary field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Hoe beluister en bekijken we (live) <span style="font-weight:bold;">Vlaamse radio en TV vanuit het buitenland</span> (‘<span style="font-style:italic;">placeshifting</span>’)? Al was het maar om het lokale nieuws wat te kunnen volgen, of voor het bekijken van kinderprogramma's of vlaamse (komische) series. Kwestie van de moedertaal wat te onderhouden ;-)<br /><br />Er zijn wel enkele '<span style="font-style:italic;">vereisten</span>' en '<span style="font-style:italic;">beperkingen</span>':</p> <ul><li><span style="font-weight:bold;">Eenvoudig</span> op te zetten en te configureren</li> <li><span style="font-weight:bold;">Via internet</span>, want via sateliet wordt er hier niets Belgisch aangeboden.</li> <li><span style="font-weight:bold;">Live streaming</span>, want anders is er niet veel aan... ;-)</li> <li>De <span style="font-weight:bold;">ADSL-snelheid</span> is zeer beperkt in Tahiti (max. 256Kbps download) wegens nog <a href="//www.ottenbourg.com/blog/2007/08/internet-de-kabel-2009.html">geen optische glasvezel</a> (pas in 2009-2010)</li> </ul><p><span style="font-weight:bold;">INTERNET RADIO</span><br /><br />Radio-streams bestaan al langer en zijn meestal eenvoudig via de website van het radiostation op te starten.<br /><br /><img align="right" hspace="10" alt="" src="//www.ottenbourg.com/blog/uploaded_images/screamerradio.jpg" />Maar om alles wat te centraliseren ben ik al enige tijd een <span style="font-weight:bold;">veelvuldige gebruiker</span> en <span style="font-weight:bold;">grote fan</span> van het <span style="font-weight:bold;">freeware programma</span> <a target="_blank" href="http://www.screamer-radio.com/">Screamer Radio</a>!<br />Meer dan <a target="_blank" href="http://www.screamer-radio.com/stations/">3000 radiostation</a> (wereldwijd), onderverdeeld per land en/of muziekstijl, kan je eenvoudig selecteren en in je Favorieten steken.<br /><br />Werkt perfect (ook via de trage ADSL van Tahiti) en je kan zelfs stukken opnemen (in MP3)!<br /><br />Voor <span style="font-weight:bold;">België zijn er 76 radio-streams beschikbaar</span>, gaande van <a target="_blank" href="http://www.donna.be/">Radio Donna</a> of <a target="_blank" href="https://stubru.be/">StuBru</a>, over <a target="_blank" href="http://www.radioforza.com/">Radio Forza</a>, <a target="_blank" href="http://www.contactvlaamsbrabant.be/">Radio Contact Vlaams-Brabant</a> tot de <a target="_blank" href="http://www.humorzender.be/">Humorzender</a>!<br /><br /><span style="font-weight:bold;">TELEVISIE</span><br /><br />Een heel ander en <span style="font-weight:bold;">minder eenvoudig</span> verhaal... Het <span style="font-weight:bold;">aanbod live-streams</span> is in ieder geval <span style="font-weight:bold;">veel beperkter</span>. Is er een technisch probleem hiervoor (bandbreedte?) of heeft het meer 'rechten' te maken?<br /><br />Programma's zoals <a target="_blank" href="http://jlc-software.com/">JLC's Internet TV</a> of website's zoals <a target="_blank" href="http://nl.wwitv.com/">wwiTV</a> of <a href="http://beeline.tv/">beeline.tv</a> combineren al deze 'kanalen' in één programma of site, maar het aanbod is redelijk beperkt, veel heruitzendingen (en dus niet live) en soms zelfs compleet verouderde streams.<br />Enkele andere, recente projecten nog:</p> <ul><li><a target="_blank" href="http://iwatch.be/">iWatch</a>: Het <span style="font-weight:bold;">video-on-demand</span> van de <a target="_blank" href="http://medialaan.net/">VMMa</a>. Interessant idee maar niet live, tegen betaling en hoge systeemvereisten (min. 1Mbps download).</li> <li><a target="_blank" href="https://www.npo.nl/">Uitzendinggemist.nl</a>: (her)bekijken van <span style="font-weight:bold;">gemiste uitzendingen</span> (on-demand) van Nederlandse zenders.</li> <li><a target="_blank" href="http://www.joost.com/">Joost</a>: Nieuw en leuk om <span style="font-weight:bold;">offline</span> iets te bekijken maar van live-streaming is geen sprake en het aanbod is ook <span style="font-weight:bold;">relatief beperkt</span>, laat staan dat er iets in 't Vlaams of Nederlands beschikbaar is.</li> <li><a target="_blank" href="http://zattoo.com/">Zattoo.com</a>: O.a. <a href="https://www.vier.be/">VT4</a> wordt <span style="font-weight:bold;">live</span> via het programma Zattoo op internet gestreamd, maar er blijkt een <span style="font-weight:bold;">IP-beperking</span> ingebouwd, waardoor je het enkel in België (en Zwitserland) kan bekijken. Helaas niets voor ons dus.</li> </ul><p>M.a.w. het enige alternatief (voor ons) is dus om vanuit België (via een kabel/sateliet-aansluiting) <span style="font-weight:bold;">zelf te gaan zitten streamen</span> (privé) naar onze laptops. Samen met achterneef <span style="font-style:italic;">Frank Ottenbourgh</span> (broer van <a target="_blank" href="http://ottenbourgh.blogspot.com/">Ilse uit Lugano</a>) proberen we hiervoor een oplossing te zoeken.<br /><br />Grootste struikelblok zal de beperkte bandbreedte en snelheid zijn van onze internet toegang in Tahiti. M.a.w. <span style="font-weight:bold;">compressie</span> zal nodig zijn en dus waarschijnlijk wat verlies van kwaliteit. Op zich, geen probleem als het acceptabel blijft.<br /><br />Enkele <span style="font-style:italic;">denkpistes</span>:</p> <ul><li><a target="_blank" href="http://www.slingmedia.com/go/slingbox">SlingBox</a>: Bestaat al sinds enige tijd in de VS, maar voorlopig nog niet echt beschikbaar in België. Via deze 'doos' koppel je je TV aan het internet (router), zodat je op je eigen streaming kan volgen van eender waar. Minimale upload snelheid is 256Kbps, maar van de<span style="font-weight:bold;"> download snelheid</span> geen technische specificaties. Daarenboven zitten we in België met het PAL-systeem, en in de VS met <span style="font-weight:bold;">NTSC</span>. Is compressie nodig/mogelijk?</li> <li><a target="_blank" href="https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dreambox">DreamBox</a>: Via deze ontvanger van <a title="DVB" href="https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/DVB">DVB-S</a>-satellietzenders kan je al streamen op je lokale LAN-netwerkje, dus was de idee om hier vanop afstand toegang te laten geven (opzetten van poort op router en dan, via fix IP of <a target="_blank" href="https://dyn.com/dns/">Dynamic DNS</a>, hiernaar toe te surfen).<br />Technisch blijkt dit te werken, maar <span style="font-weight:bold;">onze ADSL-verbinding is te zwak</span>.</li> <li><a target="_blank" href="http://m4rtin.dnsalias.net/re-stream/">Dreambox ReStream Project</a>: Koppel de Dreambox-stream aan een lokale netwerk <span style="font-weight:bold;">PC die het signaal compresseert</span> en vervolgens <span style="font-weight:bold;">opnieuw streamt</span> over het internet. Dat is de bedoeling van dit zelf geschreven script... nu nog uittesten.</li> <li><a target="_blank" href="https://www.sony.co.uk/locationfree">Sony LF-PK1 LocationFree</a>: Beetje <span style="font-weight:bold;">zelfde principe als de SlingBox</span>. Werkt voor zowel NTSC als PAL signalen, automatic bit-rate control en met 300Kbps als minimale upload snelheid. Geen details over downloadsnelheid. Misschien zit hier wel iets in...</li> </ul><p><br />Of heeft er iemand <span style="font-weight:bold;">andere</span> ideeën, voorstellen, ervaringen, opmerkingen?!</p> <p><strong>UPDATE (2014)</strong> : <a href="//www.ottenbourg.com/blog/2014/01/stievie-en-bhaalu-getest-voor-expats.html">Stievie en Bhaalu getest voor expats</a></p> </div> <!-- END OUTPUT from 'themes/contrib/bootstrap/templates/field/field.html.twig' --> <!-- THEME DEBUG --> <!-- THEME HOOK: 'field' --> <!-- FILE NAME SUGGESTIONS: * field--default--node--field-labels--story.html.twig * field--default--node--story.html.twig * field--default--node--field-labels.html.twig * field--default--field-labels--story.html.twig * field--default--story.html.twig * field--default--field-labels.html.twig * field--default.html.twig * field--theme-ds-field-default.html.twig * field--node--field-labels--story.html.twig * field--node--field-labels.html.twig * field--node--story.html.twig * field--field-labels.html.twig * field--entity-reference.html.twig x field.html.twig --> <!-- BEGIN OUTPUT from 'themes/contrib/bootstrap/templates/field/field.html.twig' --> <div class="field field--name-field-labels field--type-entity-reference field--label-hidden field--items"> <div class="field--item"><a href="/blog/labels/tv" hreflang="nl">TV</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/blog/labels/streaming" hreflang="nl">streaming</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/blog/labels/screamer-radio" hreflang="nl">Screamer Radio</a></div> </div> <!-- END OUTPUT from 'themes/contrib/bootstrap/templates/field/field.html.twig' --> <!-- THEME DEBUG --> <!-- THEME HOOK: 'field' --> <!-- FILE NAME SUGGESTIONS: * field--default--node--comment-node-story--story.html.twig * field--default--node--story.html.twig * field--default--node--comment-node-story.html.twig * field--default--comment-node-story--story.html.twig * field--default--story.html.twig * field--default--comment-node-story.html.twig * field--default.html.twig * field--theme-ds-field-default.html.twig * field--node--comment-node-story--story.html.twig * field--node--comment-node-story.html.twig * field--node--story.html.twig * field--comment-node-story.html.twig x field--comment.html.twig * field.html.twig --> <!-- BEGIN OUTPUT from 'core/modules/comment/templates/field--comment.html.twig' --> <section> <h2>Comments</h2> <!-- THEME DEBUG --> <!-- THEME HOOK: 'comment__comment_node_story__story' --> <!-- FILE NAME SUGGESTIONS: * comment--comment-node-story--story.html.twig * comment--comment-node-story.html.twig x comment.html.twig --> <!-- BEGIN OUTPUT from 'themes/custom/ottenbourgblog/templates/comment.html.twig' --> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-773" class="js-comment"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1199622682"></mark> <footer> <p>Ingediend door <!-- THEME DEBUG --> <!-- THEME HOOK: 'username' --> <!-- BEGIN OUTPUT from 'core/modules/user/templates/username.html.twig' --> <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.blogger.com/profile/15497591124275900445" lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="" content="Tom, Hilde, Nathan and Levi">Tom, Hilde, Na…</a> <!-- END OUTPUT from 'core/modules/user/templates/username.html.twig' --> op 6/01/2008</p> </footer> <div> <h3><a href="/blog/comment/773#comment-773" class="permalink" rel="bookmark" hreflang="nl">BVN (Beste van Vlaanderen en Nederland </a></h3> <!-- THEME DEBUG --> <!-- THEME HOOK: 'field' --> <!-- FILE NAME SUGGESTIONS: * field--comment--comment-body--comment-node-story.html.twig * field--comment--comment-body.html.twig * field--comment--comment-node-story.html.twig * field--comment-body.html.twig * field--text-long.html.twig x field.html.twig --> <!-- BEGIN OUTPUT from 'themes/contrib/bootstrap/templates/field/field.html.twig' --> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>BVN (Beste van Vlaanderen en Nederland via satelliet? Zie: <a href="http://www.bvn.nl/Wij">http://www.bvn.nl/Wij</a> hebben het zelf niet, maar andere Vlamingen hier wel. En blijkt goed te zijn.Groeten uit Adelaide</p> </div> <!-- END OUTPUT from 'themes/contrib/bootstrap/templates/field/field.html.twig' --> </div> </article> <!-- END OUTPUT from 'themes/custom/ottenbourgblog/templates/comment.html.twig' --> <!-- THEME DEBUG --> <!-- THEME HOOK: 'comment__comment_node_story__story' --> <!-- FILE NAME SUGGESTIONS: * comment--comment-node-story--story.html.twig * comment--comment-node-story.html.twig x comment.html.twig --> <!-- BEGIN OUTPUT from 'themes/custom/ottenbourgblog/templates/comment.html.twig' --> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-774" class="js-comment"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1199639216"></mark> <footer> <p>Ingediend door <!-- THEME DEBUG --> <!-- THEME HOOK: 'username' --> <!-- BEGIN OUTPUT from 'core/modules/user/templates/username.html.twig' --> <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Maarten</span> <!-- END OUTPUT from 'core/modules/user/templates/username.html.twig' --> op 6/01/2008</p> </footer> <div> <h3><a href="/blog/comment/774#comment-774" class="permalink" rel="bookmark" hreflang="nl">Slingbox is beste optie denk ik. Is </a></h3> <!-- THEME DEBUG --> <!-- THEME HOOK: 'field' --> <!-- FILE NAME SUGGESTIONS: * field--comment--comment-body--comment-node-story.html.twig * field--comment--comment-body.html.twig * field--comment--comment-node-story.html.twig * field--comment-body.html.twig * field--text-long.html.twig x field.html.twig --> <!-- BEGIN OUTPUT from 'themes/contrib/bootstrap/templates/field/field.html.twig' --> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Slingbox is beste optie denk ik. Is ook al in Europa te verkrijgen; o.a Dixons verkoopt het (UK)</p> </div> <!-- END OUTPUT from 'themes/contrib/bootstrap/templates/field/field.html.twig' --> </div> </article> <!-- END OUTPUT from 'themes/custom/ottenbourgblog/templates/comment.html.twig' --> <!-- THEME DEBUG --> <!-- THEME HOOK: 'comment__comment_node_story__story' --> <!-- FILE NAME SUGGESTIONS: * comment--comment-node-story--story.html.twig * comment--comment-node-story.html.twig x comment.html.twig --> <!-- BEGIN OUTPUT from 'themes/custom/ottenbourgblog/templates/comment.html.twig' --> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-775" class="js-comment"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1199659709"></mark> <footer> <p>Ingediend door <!-- THEME DEBUG --> <!-- THEME HOOK: 'username' --> <!-- BEGIN OUTPUT from 'core/modules/user/templates/username.html.twig' --> <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.blogger.com/profile/13826625973744873915" lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Jan Ottenbourg</a> <!-- END OUTPUT from 'core/modules/user/templates/username.html.twig' --> op 7/01/2008</p> </footer> <div> <h3><a href="/blog/comment/775#comment-775" class="permalink" rel="bookmark" hreflang="nl">@ Tom: BVN wordt helaas niet </a></h3> <!-- THEME DEBUG --> <!-- THEME HOOK: 'field' --> <!-- FILE NAME SUGGESTIONS: * field--comment--comment-body--comment-node-story.html.twig * field--comment--comment-body.html.twig * field--comment--comment-node-story.html.twig * field--comment-body.html.twig * field--text-long.html.twig x field.html.twig --> <!-- BEGIN OUTPUT from 'themes/contrib/bootstrap/templates/field/field.html.twig' --> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>@ Tom: BVN wordt helaas niet uitgezonden door een sateliet in het Stille Zuidzee gebied</p> </div> <!-- END OUTPUT from 'themes/contrib/bootstrap/templates/field/field.html.twig' --> </div> </article> <!-- END OUTPUT from 'themes/custom/ottenbourgblog/templates/comment.html.twig' --> <!-- THEME DEBUG --> <!-- THEME HOOK: 'comment__comment_node_story__story' --> <!-- FILE NAME SUGGESTIONS: * comment--comment-node-story--story.html.twig * comment--comment-node-story.html.twig x comment.html.twig --> <!-- BEGIN OUTPUT from 'themes/custom/ottenbourgblog/templates/comment.html.twig' --> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-776" class="js-comment"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1199663530"></mark> <footer> <p>Ingediend door <!-- THEME DEBUG --> <!-- THEME HOOK: 'username' --> <!-- BEGIN OUTPUT from 'core/modules/user/templates/username.html.twig' --> <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.blogger.com/profile/15497591124275900445" lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="" content="Tom, Hilde, Nathan and Levi">Tom, Hilde, Na…</a> <!-- END OUTPUT from 'core/modules/user/templates/username.html.twig' --> op 7/01/2008</p> </footer> <div> <h3><a href="/blog/comment/776#comment-776" class="permalink" rel="bookmark" hreflang="nl">Da&#039;s pech!Probeer ook deze eens: </a></h3> <!-- THEME DEBUG --> <!-- THEME HOOK: 'field' --> <!-- FILE NAME SUGGESTIONS: * field--comment--comment-body--comment-node-story.html.twig * field--comment--comment-body.html.twig * field--comment--comment-node-story.html.twig * field--comment-body.html.twig * field--text-long.html.twig x field.html.twig --> <!-- BEGIN OUTPUT from 'themes/contrib/bootstrap/templates/field/field.html.twig' --> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Da's pech!Probeer ook deze eens: helemaal nieuw van de nieuwsredactie. Live nieuws uit Vlaanderen en de wereld op <a href="http://www.deredactie.beGroeten">www.deredactie.beGroeten</a></p> </div> <!-- END OUTPUT from 'themes/contrib/bootstrap/templates/field/field.html.twig' --> </div> </article> <!-- END OUTPUT from 'themes/custom/ottenbourgblog/templates/comment.html.twig' --> <!-- THEME DEBUG --> <!-- THEME HOOK: 'comment__comment_node_story__story' --> <!-- FILE NAME SUGGESTIONS: * comment--comment-node-story--story.html.twig * comment--comment-node-story.html.twig x comment.html.twig --> <!-- BEGIN OUTPUT from 'themes/custom/ottenbourgblog/templates/comment.html.twig' --> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-777" class="js-comment"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1199766405"></mark> <footer> <p>Ingediend door <!-- THEME DEBUG --> <!-- THEME HOOK: 'username' --> <!-- BEGIN OUTPUT from 'core/modules/user/templates/username.html.twig' --> <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.blogger.com/profile/11213746082732779183" lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Tom</a> <!-- END OUTPUT from 'core/modules/user/templates/username.html.twig' --> op 8/01/2008</p> </footer> <div> <h3><a href="/blog/comment/777#comment-777" class="permalink" rel="bookmark" hreflang="nl">http://www.belgie.fm/Onlangs </a></h3> <!-- THEME DEBUG --> <!-- THEME HOOK: 'field' --> <!-- FILE NAME SUGGESTIONS: * field--comment--comment-body--comment-node-story.html.twig * field--comment--comment-body.html.twig * field--comment--comment-node-story.html.twig * field--comment-body.html.twig * field--text-long.html.twig x field.html.twig --> <!-- BEGIN OUTPUT from 'themes/contrib/bootstrap/templates/field/field.html.twig' --> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p><a href="http://www.belgie.fm/Onlangs">http://www.belgie.fm/Onlangs</a> ontdekt</p> </div> <!-- END OUTPUT from 'themes/contrib/bootstrap/templates/field/field.html.twig' --> </div> </article> <!-- END OUTPUT from 'themes/custom/ottenbourgblog/templates/comment.html.twig' --> <!-- THEME DEBUG --> <!-- THEME HOOK: 'comment__comment_node_story__story' --> <!-- FILE NAME SUGGESTIONS: * comment--comment-node-story--story.html.twig * comment--comment-node-story.html.twig x comment.html.twig --> <!-- BEGIN OUTPUT from 'themes/custom/ottenbourgblog/templates/comment.html.twig' --> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-778" class="js-comment"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1199831249"></mark> <footer> <p>Ingediend door <!-- THEME DEBUG --> <!-- THEME HOOK: 'username' --> <!-- BEGIN OUTPUT from 'core/modules/user/templates/username.html.twig' --> <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.bvn.tv" lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="" content="Mies van Steensel van der Aa">Mies van Steen…</a> <!-- END OUTPUT from 'core/modules/user/templates/username.html.twig' --> op 9/01/2008</p> </footer> <div> <h3><a href="/blog/comment/778#comment-778" class="permalink" rel="bookmark" hreflang="nl">Beste Jan,Vriendelijk dank voor uw </a></h3> <!-- THEME DEBUG --> <!-- THEME HOOK: 'field' --> <!-- FILE NAME SUGGESTIONS: * field--comment--comment-body--comment-node-story.html.twig * field--comment--comment-body.html.twig * field--comment--comment-node-story.html.twig * field--comment-body.html.twig * field--text-long.html.twig x field.html.twig --> <!-- BEGIN OUTPUT from 'themes/contrib/bootstrap/templates/field/field.html.twig' --> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Beste Jan,Vriendelijk dank voor uw reactie.U vraag of het mogelijk is om BVN te ontvangen op Tahiti. Helaas is dit niet mogelijk. Er is geen satelliet die BVN uitzendt die daar te ontvangen is.Voor het online bekijken van Nederlandstalige programma's verwijzen wij u naar de website van de Publieke Omroepen: <a href="http://www.omroep.nl">www.omroep.nl</a> of <a href="http://www.uitzendinggemist.nl">www.uitzendinggemist.nl</a>. U vindt hier een actueel archief met vele programma's van de Publieke Omroepen die u online kunt bekijken. Kijk voor meer informatie op <a href="http://www.bvn.tv">www.bvn.tv</a>. Vertrouwend u met deze informatie van dienst te zijn.Met vriendelijke groet,Mies van Steensel van der AaBVN/WereldomroepPublieksvoorlichtingPostbus 2221200 JG HilversumT: + 31 35 672 43 33F: + 31 35 672 43 43E: <a href="mailto:bvn@rnw.nlE">bvn@rnw.nlE</a>: <a href="mailto:wereldomroep@rnw.nlI">wereldomroep@rnw.nlI</a>: <a href="http://www.bvn.tvI:">www.bvn.tvI:</a> <a href="http://www.wereldomroep.nl">www.wereldomroep.nl</a></p> </div> <!-- END OUTPUT from 'themes/contrib/bootstrap/templates/field/field.html.twig' --> </div> </article> <!-- END OUTPUT from 'themes/custom/ottenbourgblog/templates/comment.html.twig' --> <!-- THEME DEBUG --> <!-- THEME HOOK: 'pager' --> <!-- BEGIN OUTPUT from 'themes/contrib/bootstrap/templates/system/pager.html.twig' --> <!-- END OUTPUT from 'themes/contrib/bootstrap/templates/system/pager.html.twig' --> <h2>Reactie toevoegen</h2> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderForm" arguments="0=node&amp;1=539&amp;2=comment_node_story&amp;3=comment_node_story" token="R4X-wwMp2BZgVxHHdH2Um8CDA_KqzGsFT3mQyX4Fy6I"></drupal-render-placeholder> </section> <!-- END OUTPUT from 'core/modules/comment/templates/field--comment.html.twig' --> </div> </div> <!-- END OUTPUT from 'core/modules/layout_discovery/layouts/onecol/layout--onecol.html.twig' --> <!-- END OUTPUT from 'modules/contrib/ds/templates/ds-entity-view.html.twig' --> Sat, 05 Jan 2008 21:49:00 +0000 Jan Ottenbourg 539 at https://www.ottenbourg.com/blog